1 00:00:01,230 --> 00:00:13,940 [Music] 2 00:00:21,109 --> 00:00:19,670 all right welcome back fade to black 3 00:00:23,900 --> 00:00:21,119 I'm your host to me Church you can 4 00:00:26,750 --> 00:00:23,910 follow me on twitter at GH radio email 5 00:00:28,910 --> 00:00:26,760 as jimmy at jupiter radio calm thursday 6 00:00:30,019 --> 00:00:28,920 night it is fate or night open lines all 7 00:00:33,580 --> 00:00:30,029 night long we're gonna open up the 8 00:00:36,049 --> 00:00:33,590 phones at the top of the hour this week 9 00:00:40,970 --> 00:00:36,059 actually when i say this week i mean in 10 00:00:42,560 --> 00:00:40,980 seven days week from tomorrow contacting 11 00:00:47,060 --> 00:00:42,570 the desert kicks off out in palm springs 12 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:47,070 california and joining me right now this 13 00:00:53,619 --> 00:00:50,250 is behind the secret door or super 14 00:00:56,360 --> 00:00:53,629 surprise guest a secret guest tonight 15 00:00:59,240 --> 00:00:56,370 Giorgio tsoukalos Giorgio how you doing 16 00:01:01,520 --> 00:00:59,250 man how's it going fate or not how's it 17 00:01:05,149 --> 00:01:01,530 going Jimmy how are you you know always 18 00:01:07,039 --> 00:01:05,159 good to hear your voice and we're 19 00:01:09,859 --> 00:01:07,049 getting ready to kick it off man we are 20 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:09,869 in conference season Giorgio next week 21 00:01:15,649 --> 00:01:12,530 is contacting the desert you excited 22 00:01:17,870 --> 00:01:15,659 yeah I I totally am and as many of you 23 00:01:20,330 --> 00:01:17,880 know this is my favorite conference out 24 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:20,340 of the whole year and you know Victoria 25 00:01:25,190 --> 00:01:23,250 voy and put this thing on eight years 26 00:01:28,130 --> 00:01:25,200 ago for the first time and I can't 27 00:01:30,230 --> 00:01:28,140 believe it's been eight years and you 28 00:01:34,219 --> 00:01:30,240 know this event has just grown by leaps 29 00:01:37,099 --> 00:01:34,229 and bounds and I can't wait to meet all 30 00:01:40,580 --> 00:01:37,109 of you attending this year because the 31 00:01:42,380 --> 00:01:40,590 event I'm told has many many surprises 32 00:01:45,289 --> 00:01:42,390 up its sleeves and things that have 33 00:01:46,399 --> 00:01:45,299 never done been done before so this is 34 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:46,409 going to be fantastic 35 00:01:53,179 --> 00:01:50,850 you know you're right we have done this 36 00:01:57,289 --> 00:01:53,189 conference together with with so many 37 00:02:00,800 --> 00:01:57,299 others right but we have watched this 38 00:02:03,679 --> 00:02:00,810 grow right when you look back and you 39 00:02:05,569 --> 00:02:03,689 think about where things were so many 40 00:02:10,270 --> 00:02:05,579 years ago to what what it's what it is 41 00:02:14,809 --> 00:02:10,280 today it's absolutely amazing to see the 42 00:02:17,270 --> 00:02:14,819 the wow I want to say audience in the 43 00:02:19,850 --> 00:02:17,280 progression because yes you recall you 44 00:02:22,490 --> 00:02:19,860 know back in the day and this was only 45 00:02:24,640 --> 00:02:22,500 three conferences or three years ago the 46 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:24,650 event was in the middle of Joshua Tree 47 00:02:28,070 --> 00:02:27,330 actually in the desert and he was a 48 00:02:32,690 --> 00:02:28,080 wonderful 49 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:32,700 magical experience but you know frankly 50 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:35,010 it was usually on average 100 degrees 51 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:39,210 each day and so now they've moved the 52 00:02:44,990 --> 00:02:41,610 event to the Indian Wells Renaissance 53 00:02:48,620 --> 00:02:45,000 Resort in Indian Wells and it's this 54 00:02:50,300 --> 00:02:48,630 amazing place it's an indoor Hotel all 55 00:02:53,660 --> 00:02:50,310 the events are indoor is all 56 00:02:57,050 --> 00:02:53,670 air-conditioned you know so it is an 57 00:02:58,580 --> 00:02:57,060 incredible improvement on the event and 58 00:03:01,130 --> 00:02:58,590 I've got to tell you ever since they've 59 00:03:04,370 --> 00:03:01,140 moved it to the Renaissance the event 60 00:03:06,230 --> 00:03:04,380 has grown and you know it's wonderful to 61 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:06,240 just hang out and if you want to be 62 00:03:10,700 --> 00:03:08,850 outside and the heat you step outside if 63 00:03:12,410 --> 00:03:10,710 you want to go inside and have the 64 00:03:15,590 --> 00:03:12,420 air-conditioned that's not a problem 65 00:03:18,350 --> 00:03:15,600 either so you really thing it's all 66 00:03:20,690 --> 00:03:18,360 under one roof now if you still want if 67 00:03:24,710 --> 00:03:20,700 you miss the Sun we still got that for 68 00:03:28,420 --> 00:03:24,720 you we're only a few miles away from 69 00:03:30,980 --> 00:03:28,430 Joshua Tree so no problem plus there are 70 00:03:34,010 --> 00:03:30,990 excursions into Joshua Tree planned 71 00:03:35,750 --> 00:03:34,020 anyway I think there is a there's a tour 72 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:35,760 of the integratron and then there's a 73 00:03:41,510 --> 00:03:39,090 tour of the big rock so there's all 74 00:03:44,900 --> 00:03:41,520 sorts of events or all sorts of events 75 00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:44,910 are planned for the attendees including 76 00:03:50,570 --> 00:03:46,890 of course the conference so it'll be a 77 00:03:52,190 --> 00:03:50,580 great time now I if I could what are you 78 00:03:57,400 --> 00:03:52,200 what are you going to be speaking about 79 00:04:01,400 --> 00:03:57,410 this year well I have this tradition at 80 00:04:03,020 --> 00:04:01,410 contact where you know everybody's 81 00:04:06,229 --> 00:04:03,030 supposed to give like these two lectures 82 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:06,239 or these two presentations and because 83 00:04:11,449 --> 00:04:09,090 the first two years every time I try to 84 00:04:15,260 --> 00:04:11,459 have my one of my presentations the 85 00:04:17,210 --> 00:04:15,270 power failed we just had a QA and so I'm 86 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:17,220 looking forward to this thing that we've 87 00:04:22,190 --> 00:04:19,530 basically kept over all these years 88 00:04:25,159 --> 00:04:22,200 where one of my presentations or one of 89 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:25,169 my appearances will be a two-hour QA and 90 00:04:30,500 --> 00:04:27,570 so you can you know ask me any question 91 00:04:32,390 --> 00:04:30,510 you want I'll tell you stories and then 92 00:04:35,780 --> 00:04:32,400 in my presentation I will give you my 93 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:35,790 classic international presentation about 94 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:37,530 why I think we've been visited in the 95 00:04:41,420 --> 00:04:40,530 past and you know I'm not the only one 96 00:04:47,420 --> 00:04:41,430 there 97 00:04:51,249 --> 00:04:47,430 Erich von däniken George Noory yourself 98 00:04:54,650 --> 00:04:51,259 Jimmy Graham Hancock Linda Moulton Howe 99 00:04:57,200 --> 00:04:54,660 Rich Dolan Jacques Vallee Michael dr. 100 00:05:00,379 --> 00:04:57,210 Michael Dennin Whitley Strieber Hugh 101 00:05:02,840 --> 00:05:00,389 Newman Nick Pope Ryan Forrester Carolyn 102 00:05:05,060 --> 00:05:02,850 Corey Travis Walton Steven Bassett 103 00:05:07,370 --> 00:05:05,070 clifford mahooty Brad Olsen yeah I mean 104 00:05:09,980 --> 00:05:07,380 you can't you can't name everybody is 105 00:05:13,100 --> 00:05:09,990 there so if you want to meet your your 106 00:05:15,290 --> 00:05:13,110 heroes come on out to contact and desert 107 00:05:19,879 --> 00:05:15,300 and you know we'll have a ton of fun 108 00:05:23,390 --> 00:05:19,889 yeah one of the cool things that you do 109 00:05:27,439 --> 00:05:23,400 every year is you have a fantastic booth 110 00:05:29,900 --> 00:05:27,449 and you hang out and you chat with 111 00:05:32,659 --> 00:05:29,910 everybody that comes up to you and 112 00:05:34,790 --> 00:05:32,669 you've got lots of really cool unique 113 00:05:36,710 --> 00:05:34,800 products usually I go over and steal a 114 00:05:40,010 --> 00:05:36,720 couple when your back is turned 115 00:05:43,159 --> 00:05:40,020 but but that is one of the great things 116 00:05:45,370 --> 00:05:43,169 that you do is you hang out isn't that 117 00:05:47,750 --> 00:05:45,380 isn't that just one of the best parts of 118 00:05:51,290 --> 00:05:47,760 contact in the desert just hanging out 119 00:05:53,719 --> 00:05:51,300 at the booth and and chatting yeah look 120 00:05:56,120 --> 00:05:53,729 I mean meeting meeting the fans and you 121 00:05:56,710 --> 00:05:56,130 know the fellow colleagues is truly 122 00:06:00,200 --> 00:05:56,720 amazing 123 00:06:05,390 --> 00:06:00,210 you know contact in a desert began as 124 00:06:07,879 --> 00:06:05,400 this small you know conference and it 125 00:06:10,610 --> 00:06:07,889 has grown into something really really 126 00:06:13,180 --> 00:06:10,620 wonderful and you know one of the great 127 00:06:19,100 --> 00:06:13,190 things that I think is great about 128 00:06:21,589 --> 00:06:19,110 contact is that we all we're all on the 129 00:06:23,689 --> 00:06:21,599 premises so we all get to hang out you 130 00:06:27,939 --> 00:06:23,699 can you know flag us down ask us a 131 00:06:32,500 --> 00:06:27,949 question so it's a very mellow event and 132 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:32,510 you know I I myself have always been in 133 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:35,610 the impression that you know the reason 134 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:38,130 why any of us exist is because of you 135 00:06:42,890 --> 00:06:39,930 because of your listeners and I because 136 00:06:45,439 --> 00:06:42,900 of the viewership of ancient aliens so 137 00:06:47,870 --> 00:06:45,449 we you know the fans are the reason why 138 00:06:50,060 --> 00:06:47,880 we exist so I think it's a wonderful 139 00:06:51,529 --> 00:06:50,070 thing to give back to the fans by 140 00:06:53,899 --> 00:06:51,539 hanging out with them and you know 141 00:06:55,159 --> 00:06:53,909 answer questions yeah it's the key 142 00:06:58,089 --> 00:06:55,169 phrase right there it's a 143 00:07:02,230 --> 00:06:58,099 now you're absolutely right hey Giorgio 144 00:07:07,629 --> 00:07:02,240 you you're now on your 100th season of 145 00:07:11,450 --> 00:07:07,639 ancient Annan's now a hundred seas and 146 00:07:13,369 --> 00:07:11,460 it's gotten nothing but bigger and 147 00:07:16,399 --> 00:07:13,379 better you're in the middle of 148 00:07:17,929 --> 00:07:16,409 production right now where are some of 149 00:07:20,749 --> 00:07:17,939 the exciting locations you've been 150 00:07:22,909 --> 00:07:20,759 filming at this this time around well 151 00:07:26,450 --> 00:07:22,919 it's it's really crazy and you know 152 00:07:28,790 --> 00:07:26,460 what's amazing is that on May 31st only 153 00:07:31,929 --> 00:07:28,800 a week from now will actually have the 154 00:07:36,140 --> 00:07:31,939 premiere of our new season on Friday and 155 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:36,150 you know this season we'll do things 156 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:38,370 that we've never done before and Ivan I 157 00:07:43,369 --> 00:07:40,770 know that I've said that before but this 158 00:07:44,809 --> 00:07:43,379 time it's true because seven days from 159 00:07:47,179 --> 00:07:44,819 now in the first episode you'll see 160 00:07:48,829 --> 00:07:47,189 exactly what I mean I can't tell you 161 00:07:52,489 --> 00:07:48,839 exactly what it is because it's 162 00:07:55,730 --> 00:07:52,499 something brand-new but I've been to so 163 00:08:00,579 --> 00:07:55,740 far I've been to England and Canada and 164 00:08:03,469 --> 00:08:00,589 I have met one astrophysicist 165 00:08:07,579 --> 00:08:03,479 astrobiologist dr. Richard Hoover who 166 00:08:11,119 --> 00:08:07,589 has proven he has found concise physical 167 00:08:14,420 --> 00:08:11,129 evidence for extraterrestrial life here 168 00:08:15,980 --> 00:08:14,430 on earth yes it is microbial but these 169 00:08:17,869 --> 00:08:15,990 are things that should be on the front 170 00:08:19,749 --> 00:08:17,879 pages of the newspapers this is 171 00:08:24,110 --> 00:08:19,759 something we should talk about and 172 00:08:27,010 --> 00:08:24,120 usually it's on page nine somewhere in 173 00:08:30,350 --> 00:08:27,020 the back or in the back page you know so 174 00:08:33,560 --> 00:08:30,360 we'll reveal some truly riveting stuff 175 00:08:39,230 --> 00:08:33,570 this season and it'll be it'll be a good 176 00:08:42,529 --> 00:08:39,240 one when you guys have the success of 177 00:08:46,579 --> 00:08:42,539 ancient aliens and you know a leader 178 00:08:50,449 --> 00:08:46,589 behind you like Kevin Burns who is an 179 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:50,459 absolute stand-up believer of this 180 00:08:55,490 --> 00:08:53,370 community and represents us does that 181 00:08:58,639 --> 00:08:55,500 ultimately just give you the freedom 182 00:09:01,100 --> 00:08:58,649 knowing that the sky's the limit we can 183 00:09:04,180 --> 00:09:01,110 do what we need to do you're not limited 184 00:09:07,090 --> 00:09:04,190 by by a bosses 185 00:09:11,740 --> 00:09:07,100 I don't know right how does that make 186 00:09:15,400 --> 00:09:11,750 you feel it is it is pretty amazing 187 00:09:17,740 --> 00:09:15,410 because Kevin you know it has become 188 00:09:20,650 --> 00:09:17,750 over the years a good and very close 189 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:20,660 friend of mine and you know so I know 190 00:09:26,520 --> 00:09:24,170 him privately and the the mind behind 191 00:09:29,500 --> 00:09:26,530 this ancient aliens we all have to be 192 00:09:31,540 --> 00:09:29,510 grateful that Kevin has seen the vision 193 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:31,550 or has the vision behind this right 194 00:09:37,630 --> 00:09:34,250 because you know I I've seen each 195 00:09:40,210 --> 00:09:37,640 episode when it was written then it we 196 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:40,220 shoot it and then we have a rough cut 197 00:09:45,820 --> 00:09:42,650 and every time that Kevin sees it it 198 00:09:49,120 --> 00:09:45,830 doesn't matter who it is he'll always 199 00:09:51,550 --> 00:09:49,130 improve it so we should also be so lucky 200 00:09:54,640 --> 00:09:51,560 to have Kevin behind all of us and yes 201 00:09:56,710 --> 00:09:54,650 he is a a gigantic supporter be behind 202 00:09:59,350 --> 00:09:56,720 all of this because he agrees with the 203 00:10:03,010 --> 00:09:59,360 notion that in the end what do we 204 00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:03,020 actually know besides two plus two 205 00:10:07,750 --> 00:10:05,450 equals four yes we know these things but 206 00:10:10,030 --> 00:10:07,760 there are other things especially in 207 00:10:12,550 --> 00:10:10,040 regards to our history that have many 208 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:12,560 question marks and with ancient aliens 209 00:10:16,510 --> 00:10:14,330 it's one of the first times in the 210 00:10:19,060 --> 00:10:16,520 history of television that we get to 211 00:10:22,120 --> 00:10:19,070 present our side without being ridiculed 212 00:10:24,490 --> 00:10:22,130 from the other side or looked at from it 213 00:10:28,750 --> 00:10:24,500 from a skeptical perspective would it 214 00:10:30,610 --> 00:10:28,760 surprise you if Kevin you guys are 215 00:10:32,140 --> 00:10:30,620 sitting down and planning out the next 216 00:10:34,060 --> 00:10:32,150 season I'm not kidding about this 217 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:34,070 statement by the way would it surprise 218 00:10:37,930 --> 00:10:35,930 you if Kevin sits down goes okay well 219 00:10:40,210 --> 00:10:37,940 you know I've been talking to Bezos you 220 00:10:42,100 --> 00:10:40,220 know I've been talking to musk and we're 221 00:10:44,710 --> 00:10:42,110 gonna shoot a couple episodes from the 222 00:10:47,740 --> 00:10:44,720 moon this year right is it's like that 223 00:10:49,180 --> 00:10:47,750 isn't it well I mean I would welcome 224 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:49,190 that that would be amazing 225 00:10:54,670 --> 00:10:52,010 well look if we're on the air five or 226 00:10:58,390 --> 00:10:54,680 ten years from now I think that could be 227 00:11:01,630 --> 00:10:58,400 a possibility because you know the the 228 00:11:06,430 --> 00:11:01,640 Moon and Mars that is the next frontier 229 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:06,440 and you know I know from from my one of 230 00:11:11,590 --> 00:11:09,050 my closest and best friends when I was a 231 00:11:14,590 --> 00:11:11,600 little boy Andre is ill he is now 232 00:11:17,800 --> 00:11:14,600 working for SpaceX and he himself has 233 00:11:20,250 --> 00:11:17,810 told me that it is quite possible 234 00:11:23,830 --> 00:11:20,260 that you and me and our fellow listeners 235 00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:23,840 within the next thirty years will be 236 00:11:31,480 --> 00:11:28,850 able to possibly retire on Mars now that 237 00:11:34,690 --> 00:11:31,490 is an amazing adventure and if that 238 00:11:37,630 --> 00:11:34,700 possibility should arise let me tell you 239 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:37,640 I have already put aside I've already 240 00:11:41,560 --> 00:11:39,770 started to put aside my pennies to save 241 00:11:44,890 --> 00:11:41,570 up for that journey that would be 242 00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:44,900 amazing I really I would be down for 243 00:11:50,920 --> 00:11:48,050 that I would be down for that and this 244 00:11:57,670 --> 00:11:50,930 is the other part for me about you 245 00:12:01,329 --> 00:11:57,680 personally about what year is this 2019 246 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:01,339 so back in yes 247 00:12:11,680 --> 00:12:07,610 2019 back in 2008 the first season of 248 00:12:15,370 --> 00:12:11,690 ancient aliens airs I meet you that you 249 00:12:17,019 --> 00:12:15,380 speak at the MUFON meeting here in Los 250 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:17,029 Angeles you remember that night it was 251 00:12:21,610 --> 00:12:19,610 raining it was cold it was fun and think 252 00:12:23,380 --> 00:12:21,620 about how small of a group that was 253 00:12:25,540 --> 00:12:23,390 versus what you would have to go through 254 00:12:29,550 --> 00:12:25,550 today but the point that I'm making is 255 00:12:33,670 --> 00:12:29,560 you had said in that presentation about 256 00:12:35,980 --> 00:12:33,680 the amount of stars out in the Milky Way 257 00:12:38,829 --> 00:12:35,990 the amount of planets that are out there 258 00:12:42,460 --> 00:12:38,839 and what it would be like to go for us 259 00:12:44,860 --> 00:12:42,470 as explorers to go and encounter another 260 00:12:46,590 --> 00:12:44,870 civilization and how we would handle 261 00:12:49,870 --> 00:12:46,600 that I thought it was a really brilliant 262 00:12:54,040 --> 00:12:49,880 presentation but you had the vision of 263 00:12:57,460 --> 00:12:54,050 the future how cosmology and physics and 264 00:13:00,780 --> 00:12:57,470 astrophysics has changed in the last 10 265 00:13:03,670 --> 00:13:00,790 years where we now understand the 266 00:13:05,440 --> 00:13:03,680 billions and billions of planets in our 267 00:13:07,810 --> 00:13:05,450 own Milky Way that we didn't know about 268 00:13:11,920 --> 00:13:07,820 back then but you spoke about that and 269 00:13:14,079 --> 00:13:11,930 here you are today knowing about the 270 00:13:16,710 --> 00:13:14,089 amount of exoplanets and planets in the 271 00:13:20,050 --> 00:13:16,720 Milky Way pretty cool isn't it 272 00:13:22,900 --> 00:13:20,060 well thank you you know but you know I 273 00:13:25,540 --> 00:13:22,910 appreciate that but to me see to me that 274 00:13:28,060 --> 00:13:25,550 is it's and and you know I fellow 275 00:13:31,690 --> 00:13:28,070 colleagues like Erich von däniken those 276 00:13:33,930 --> 00:13:31,700 are and also you these are you know 277 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:33,940 ordinary dinner table conversations 278 00:13:41,410 --> 00:13:37,810 because you know to me I've always 279 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:41,420 marveled at the idea that there are so 280 00:13:46,060 --> 00:13:43,610 many people out there who think that we 281 00:13:49,930 --> 00:13:46,070 are the crown of creation that we are 282 00:13:51,730 --> 00:13:49,940 the greatest so the idea that we will be 283 00:13:54,250 --> 00:13:51,740 the first to me was always kind of 284 00:13:57,460 --> 00:13:54,260 ludicrous because we've had help in the 285 00:13:59,170 --> 00:13:57,470 past so and those aliens to it out from 286 00:14:01,540 --> 00:13:59,180 other aliens in the past but in the 287 00:14:05,650 --> 00:14:01,550 future if we arrive on another planet 288 00:14:08,230 --> 00:14:05,660 and we encounter a semi you know form of 289 00:14:10,780 --> 00:14:08,240 intelligence a humanoid life-form well 290 00:14:12,730 --> 00:14:10,790 we'll help them will will guide them in 291 00:14:15,250 --> 00:14:12,740 a in a sort of the technological 292 00:14:18,370 --> 00:14:15,260 direction we'll teach them how to make 293 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:18,380 fire or how to perform agriculture and 294 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:20,210 you know science and you know 295 00:14:25,090 --> 00:14:22,610 mathematics astronomy all these 296 00:14:29,230 --> 00:14:25,100 different scientific disciplines just in 297 00:14:31,830 --> 00:14:29,240 order to spread knowledge so we too will 298 00:14:34,120 --> 00:14:31,840 do this in the future so you know 299 00:14:37,060 --> 00:14:34,130 developmental work as we do here on 300 00:14:39,130 --> 00:14:37,070 earth in my opinion has happened 301 00:14:43,170 --> 00:14:39,140 throughout the entire universe and one 302 00:14:45,280 --> 00:14:43,180 day we will be part of that entire 303 00:14:47,470 --> 00:14:45,290 mechanism of spreading knowledge 304 00:14:50,110 --> 00:14:47,480 throughout the universe and what do you 305 00:14:53,080 --> 00:14:50,120 do what's your concept with that do you 306 00:14:57,190 --> 00:14:53,090 just arrive you know with three four 307 00:14:59,050 --> 00:14:57,200 five you know what I mean three four or 308 00:15:02,140 --> 00:14:59,060 five lessons and some basic areas and 309 00:15:06,370 --> 00:15:02,150 then split you know what I mean and then 310 00:15:08,200 --> 00:15:06,380 maybe come back later and check in well 311 00:15:12,130 --> 00:15:08,210 that's a that's a great question isn't 312 00:15:14,260 --> 00:15:12,140 it because how would we do it because 313 00:15:19,090 --> 00:15:14,270 this is this is my argument that you 314 00:15:22,390 --> 00:15:19,100 know so when I began with ancient aliens 315 00:15:25,030 --> 00:15:22,400 I was yeah I followed UFOs and I 316 00:15:26,380 --> 00:15:25,040 followed you know modern-day sightings 317 00:15:29,890 --> 00:15:26,390 and things like that but I was not 318 00:15:31,570 --> 00:15:29,900 really into it today you ethology is one 319 00:15:32,590 --> 00:15:31,580 of my favorite topics and I looked 320 00:15:36,700 --> 00:15:32,600 deeply into it 321 00:15:38,620 --> 00:15:36,710 so through ancient aliens I to have 322 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:38,630 learned that there are more mysteries 323 00:15:45,610 --> 00:15:43,370 out there so you know I think that if 324 00:15:47,290 --> 00:15:45,620 you go out there 325 00:15:49,990 --> 00:15:47,300 and so what I'm suggesting is that 326 00:15:51,820 --> 00:15:50,000 perhaps in the past I thought that the 327 00:15:54,340 --> 00:15:51,830 ancient aliens were here and then they 328 00:15:56,020 --> 00:15:54,350 left but you know with everything that's 329 00:15:57,490 --> 00:15:56,030 been going on and what I've researched 330 00:15:59,830 --> 00:15:57,500 over the past ten years and what I've 331 00:16:02,520 --> 00:15:59,840 learned from my colleagues because you 332 00:16:06,820 --> 00:16:02,530 can always learn every single day is 333 00:16:09,520 --> 00:16:06,830 that perhaps all these UFO stories that 334 00:16:12,490 --> 00:16:09,530 we have throughout history indicate that 335 00:16:15,580 --> 00:16:12,500 those ancient astronauts not all of them 336 00:16:19,030 --> 00:16:15,590 have left that maybe someone stayed 337 00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:19,040 behind to watch us to observe us because 338 00:16:24,430 --> 00:16:21,530 guess why because in the Bible in the 339 00:16:26,830 --> 00:16:24,440 ancient texts sacred texts they were 340 00:16:31,030 --> 00:16:26,840 always referred to as the Watchers or 341 00:16:33,820 --> 00:16:31,040 the observers so having observers or a 342 00:16:36,520 --> 00:16:33,830 watcher means that they may have never 343 00:16:39,400 --> 00:16:36,530 left so I am now today more of the 344 00:16:40,180 --> 00:16:39,410 opinion that we've always been under 345 00:16:43,090 --> 00:16:40,190 observation 346 00:16:46,450 --> 00:16:43,100 we've always been watched and this is by 347 00:16:49,060 --> 00:16:46,460 the way nothing negative this is not you 348 00:16:51,340 --> 00:16:49,070 know the Wizard of Oz watching us you 349 00:16:54,970 --> 00:16:51,350 know from you know behind the curtain 350 00:16:57,550 --> 00:16:54,980 this is something completely in my 351 00:17:00,840 --> 00:16:57,560 opinion it's a complete neutral 352 00:17:05,710 --> 00:17:00,850 observation to see what happens to us an 353 00:17:09,790 --> 00:17:05,720 experiment that began at least 250,000 354 00:17:11,260 --> 00:17:09,800 years ago you know and so because we 355 00:17:14,050 --> 00:17:11,270 would do the same thing if you and I 356 00:17:19,380 --> 00:17:14,060 were to initiate an experiment or a 357 00:17:22,300 --> 00:17:19,390 project chances are that we would not 358 00:17:24,880 --> 00:17:22,310 abandon it I mean and I'm talking about 359 00:17:28,330 --> 00:17:24,890 a significant project I'm sure you know 360 00:17:31,180 --> 00:17:28,340 something ridiculous so therefore I 361 00:17:33,400 --> 00:17:31,190 think that you know the idea that we've 362 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:33,410 always been watched by the way this is 363 00:17:38,680 --> 00:17:36,650 the so-called zoo hypothesis this is 364 00:17:42,490 --> 00:17:38,690 something that entered that University 365 00:17:44,820 --> 00:17:42,500 Professors have come up with futurists 366 00:17:46,720 --> 00:17:44,830 and and astrobiologists and 367 00:17:50,260 --> 00:17:46,730 astrophysicists have come up with the 368 00:17:52,990 --> 00:17:50,270 idea that this whole planet may be some 369 00:17:55,300 --> 00:17:53,000 type of a zoo where aliens visit on the 370 00:17:58,030 --> 00:17:55,310 weekends for their entertainment to look 371 00:17:58,760 --> 00:17:58,040 at us and I question from you know since 372 00:18:00,950 --> 00:17:58,770 uh 373 00:18:04,730 --> 00:18:00,960 while now maybe they don't even have to 374 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:04,740 come here with spaceships or with UFOs 375 00:18:09,980 --> 00:18:08,010 but maybe we are you know on their TV or 376 00:18:12,890 --> 00:18:09,990 on their computer screens instead of 377 00:18:16,910 --> 00:18:12,900 video game I mean it's all crazy but the 378 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:16,920 but the idea or the the fact is that we 379 00:18:22,580 --> 00:18:20,010 need to ask more questions because the 380 00:18:25,490 --> 00:18:22,590 answers are no longer satisfactory and 381 00:18:27,680 --> 00:18:25,500 that for the Watchers for those 382 00:18:29,840 --> 00:18:27,690 observers it's also a huge 383 00:18:33,950 --> 00:18:29,850 responsibility in that they can't make a 384 00:18:35,870 --> 00:18:33,960 mistake and yeah do you have do you bear 385 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:35,880 that same responsibility in the 386 00:18:40,610 --> 00:18:38,010 education and presentations you do with 387 00:18:43,669 --> 00:18:40,620 ancient aliens you have to be cautious 388 00:18:46,700 --> 00:18:43,679 because you are teaching you're exposing 389 00:18:49,419 --> 00:18:46,710 people to information that they may not 390 00:18:51,110 --> 00:18:49,429 know anything about is that a 391 00:18:53,900 --> 00:18:51,120 responsibility that you have to be a 392 00:18:55,790 --> 00:18:53,910 little bit careful of well and I'm 393 00:18:58,640 --> 00:18:55,800 trying to be responsible because for 394 00:19:00,560 --> 00:18:58,650 example as you know at every lecture 395 00:19:02,660 --> 00:19:00,570 every presentation or every time 396 00:19:05,330 --> 00:19:02,670 somebody meets me personally I say that 397 00:19:08,330 --> 00:19:05,340 you know the meme the Georgio meme the 398 00:19:10,340 --> 00:19:08,340 aliens meme does not eat is not equal to 399 00:19:13,040 --> 00:19:10,350 what I actually said because personally 400 00:19:15,110 --> 00:19:13,050 I've never said nor suggested that for 401 00:19:15,950 --> 00:19:15,120 example the pyramids were built by 402 00:19:19,220 --> 00:19:15,960 aliens 403 00:19:21,740 --> 00:19:19,230 clearly the ancient pyramids of Egypt 404 00:19:25,280 --> 00:19:21,750 were built by human beings but what I 405 00:19:27,860 --> 00:19:25,290 have said is that the knowledge with 406 00:19:30,410 --> 00:19:27,870 which the pyramids were built according 407 00:19:33,770 --> 00:19:30,420 to ancient Egyptians themselves was 408 00:19:37,270 --> 00:19:33,780 given to the ancient Egyptians by the so 409 00:19:39,290 --> 00:19:37,280 called guardians of the sky now 410 00:19:40,970 --> 00:19:39,300 archaeologists or Egyptologists are 411 00:19:43,940 --> 00:19:40,980 suggesting that the guardians of the sky 412 00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:43,950 did not exist and they were just a 413 00:19:49,549 --> 00:19:46,610 figment of the ancient Egyptians 414 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:49,559 imagination I am suggesting or the 415 00:19:53,930 --> 00:19:51,450 ancient astronaut theory is suggesting 416 00:19:55,720 --> 00:19:53,940 suggesting that these guardians of the 417 00:19:57,860 --> 00:19:55,730 sky were flesh-and-blood 418 00:20:00,980 --> 00:19:57,870 extraterrestrials they were merely 419 00:20:05,990 --> 00:20:00,990 teachers because for any technological 420 00:20:09,409 --> 00:20:06,000 feat you need a evolution in technology 421 00:20:11,780 --> 00:20:09,419 in ancient Egypt while you have some 422 00:20:12,140 --> 00:20:11,790 evolution technology as far as the 423 00:20:14,270 --> 00:20:12,150 middle 424 00:20:17,660 --> 00:20:14,280 the structures are concerned there isn't 425 00:20:19,850 --> 00:20:17,670 is not in evolution and technology so 426 00:20:21,860 --> 00:20:19,860 there's the idea that the ancient 427 00:20:24,110 --> 00:20:21,870 Egyptians had teachers which they 428 00:20:27,050 --> 00:20:24,120 themselves say that they've had received 429 00:20:31,900 --> 00:20:27,060 this knowledge is not insulting but now 430 00:20:34,550 --> 00:20:31,910 people are saying that suggesting that 431 00:20:37,970 --> 00:20:34,560 receiving the knowledge for building 432 00:20:41,420 --> 00:20:37,980 something is equal to saying that aliens 433 00:20:43,940 --> 00:20:41,430 build stuff and if that is what some 434 00:20:46,460 --> 00:20:43,950 people believe I cannot help them 435 00:20:49,910 --> 00:20:46,470 because there's a huge difference in 436 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:49,920 doing it yourself by learning something 437 00:20:54,890 --> 00:20:51,450 while you do it while you have teachers 438 00:20:58,280 --> 00:20:54,900 or by just watching while somebody else 439 00:21:00,290 --> 00:20:58,290 does it do that Aaron yeah I didn't mean 440 00:21:03,110 --> 00:21:00,300 to cut you off and we just got a couple 441 00:21:05,770 --> 00:21:03,120 of minutes left and give me the quickest 442 00:21:08,630 --> 00:21:05,780 answer that you can give me five seconds 443 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:08,640 did the did the memes affect you or do 444 00:21:13,220 --> 00:21:10,410 you laugh at them because you have to 445 00:21:15,350 --> 00:21:13,230 admit it's one of the most popular 446 00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:15,360 things on the internet and it's pretty 447 00:21:20,750 --> 00:21:18,570 cool right I love them are you kidding 448 00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:20,760 me I wish for so many years that if the 449 00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:23,490 meme gets people to talk whether it is 450 00:21:27,590 --> 00:21:24,690 positive or negative 451 00:21:32,300 --> 00:21:27,600 I don't care I'm like PT Barnum any good 452 00:21:34,820 --> 00:21:32,310 any publicity yeah there you go there 453 00:21:39,170 --> 00:21:34,830 you go all right now coming up speaking 454 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:39,180 about the growth of this community and 455 00:21:43,820 --> 00:21:41,010 the awareness that's going on right 456 00:21:46,790 --> 00:21:43,830 after contacting the desert you've got 457 00:21:48,860 --> 00:21:46,800 alien Caan tune 21st through the 23rd at 458 00:21:51,370 --> 00:21:48,870 the LA Convention Center and can I just 459 00:21:57,790 --> 00:21:51,380 say this really quick Bill Shatner 460 00:22:01,100 --> 00:21:57,800 really yeah Captain Kirk absolutely 461 00:22:04,250 --> 00:22:01,110 unbelievable now when that's at the LA 462 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:04,260 Convention Center and again when you see 463 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:07,970 this many people get together because of 464 00:22:12,590 --> 00:22:10,890 why they are getting together that's got 465 00:22:15,620 --> 00:22:12,600 to make you feel pretty good a lot of 466 00:22:18,620 --> 00:22:15,630 people are getting awake well you know I 467 00:22:22,190 --> 00:22:18,630 mean I I said as a joke that this is 468 00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:22,200 like our own Star Trek but it's not it's 469 00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:24,210 not as it we should not look it as a 470 00:22:29,660 --> 00:22:25,770 joke because this 471 00:22:32,630 --> 00:22:29,670 pretty awesome and tremendous that we've 472 00:22:35,570 --> 00:22:32,640 struck a chord with so many people and 473 00:22:37,930 --> 00:22:35,580 you know Star Trek is a wonderful thing 474 00:22:41,750 --> 00:22:37,940 because many people do to Star Trek 475 00:22:45,430 --> 00:22:41,760 became astronauts became doctors became 476 00:22:48,220 --> 00:22:45,440 scientists so if ancient aliens one day 477 00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:48,230 your prompts young kids to become 478 00:22:54,500 --> 00:22:50,850 anthropologists or archeologists or 479 00:22:57,440 --> 00:22:54,510 Egyptologists but they are thinking in a 480 00:22:59,870 --> 00:22:57,450 way that we are we are thinking of the 481 00:23:03,820 --> 00:22:59,880 past then perhaps there will be one 482 00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:03,830 brain who will unlock it unlock it all 483 00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:06,570 Giorgio thank you so much thank you so 484 00:23:11,360 --> 00:23:08,970 much and I can't wait for next week 485 00:23:13,430 --> 00:23:11,370 we're gonna have such a great time same 486 00:23:14,630 --> 00:23:13,440 here and I want to give all my love to 487 00:23:16,220 --> 00:23:14,640 the fader nuts they're the best 488 00:23:19,490 --> 00:23:16,230 listeners in the world and you know 489 00:23:21,740 --> 00:23:19,500 what's great is our booths are next to 490 00:23:24,710 --> 00:23:21,750 each other a contact in the desert so 491 00:23:26,510 --> 00:23:24,720 your crew gets to come visit me my crew 492 00:23:28,340 --> 00:23:26,520 gets to come over and visit you and we 493 00:23:30,110 --> 00:23:28,350 do a four-day hangout we get to look at 494 00:23:32,419 --> 00:23:30,120 each other please thank you so much 495 00:23:34,220 --> 00:23:32,429 Giorgio behave and be well safe travels 496 00:23:36,860 --> 00:23:34,230 thanks Jaime you too and I love to read 497 00:23:40,669 --> 00:23:36,870 up take care right back attitude Giorgio 498 00:23:43,700 --> 00:23:40,679 tsoukalos next week contact in the 499 00:23:45,470 --> 00:23:43,710 desert now all of Georgia Hills links 500 00:23:47,090 --> 00:23:45,480 we're gonna have up there in Twitter and 501 00:23:49,820 --> 00:23:47,100 you can go follow giorgio too as well 502 00:23:52,669 --> 00:23:49,830 we'll take care of all of that and come 503 00:23:55,100 --> 00:23:52,679 and visit all of us next week at contact 504 00:23:57,080 --> 00:23:55,110 in the desert all right I'm gonna get 505 00:23:58,880 --> 00:23:57,090 out of here and open up the phone lines 506 00:23:59,360 --> 00:23:58,890 this is fade to black it's Thursday 507 00:24:05,150 --> 00:23:59,370 night 508 00:24:07,730 --> 00:24:05,160 long I'm yours to be searched Thank You 509 00:24:09,140 --> 00:24:07,740 Giorgio great conversation yeah we 510 00:24:11,419 --> 00:24:09,150 should have kept him on all night can't 511 00:24:11,690 --> 00:24:11,429 if I told you what he was doing right 512 00:24:13,700 --> 00:24:11,700 now 513 00:24:16,250 --> 00:24:13,710 he's literally on his way to the airport 514 00:24:19,860 --> 00:24:16,260 I'll be right back stay with me 515 00:24:21,750 --> 00:24:19,870 you're listening to a preview of fade to 516 00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:21,760 black to get the full episode go to 517 00:24:26,580 --> 00:24:23,410 Jimmy Church radio.com 518 00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:26,590 and get our podcast click on the podcast 519 00:24:32,360 --> 00:24:29,410 banner or sign up in the membership area 520 00:24:36,660 --> 00:24:32,370 for downloadable mp3s everything 521 00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:36,670 commercial free alright here we go 522 00:24:45,330 --> 00:24:40,930 open lines fader nights seven four seven 523 00:24:47,580 --> 00:24:45,340 two two eight two zero five one your 524 00:24:49,310 --> 00:24:47,590 conversation all night long the 525 00:24:53,120 --> 00:24:49,320 paranormal supernatural time-travel 526 00:24:57,060 --> 00:24:53,130 conspiracy ufos everything pop culture 527 00:24:59,940 --> 00:24:57,070 tacos yeah yeah we're gonna do all of 528 00:25:02,970 --> 00:24:59,950 that tonight and let's get to our I do 529 00:25:04,980 --> 00:25:02,980 want to thank Giorgio and Alec Hoffman 530 00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:04,990 for coming in tonight and I've got to 531 00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:08,170 get a big shout out to Ronnie McMullen 532 00:25:15,360 --> 00:25:12,250 life changed he and his company and what 533 00:25:17,340 --> 00:25:15,370 they did to help me get my feet back on 534 00:25:19,590 --> 00:25:17,350 the ground this week I wouldn't be here 535 00:25:23,340 --> 00:25:19,600 right now if it wasn't for Ronnie 536 00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:23,350 McMullen at life changed t go and visit 537 00:25:27,900 --> 00:25:26,410 get the tea you've got to get the tea 538 00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:27,910 and drink the tea 539 00:25:32,970 --> 00:25:30,850 I'm telling you thank you so much Ronnie 540 00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:32,980 with that let's go straight to the 541 00:25:36,510 --> 00:25:34,690 phone's height you're live on fade to 542 00:25:44,910 --> 00:25:36,520 black who's calling turn me down in the 543 00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:44,920 background you gotta turn me down in the 544 00:25:51,300 --> 00:25:47,410 background turn me down yeah I know I'm 545 00:25:55,020 --> 00:25:51,310 down right now okay all right how you 546 00:25:58,080 --> 00:25:55,030 doing man yeah ah Jimmy I asked you a 547 00:25:58,650 --> 00:25:58,090 question right I'm an ask you a question 548 00:26:01,220 --> 00:25:58,660 sure 549 00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:01,230 what would you think if I said to you 550 00:26:08,250 --> 00:26:05,530 what do you think of the voices of the 551 00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:08,260 children yet unborn what would you think 552 00:26:13,980 --> 00:26:11,890 that was the voices of the children the 553 00:26:17,190 --> 00:26:13,990 children that are yet unborn 554 00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:17,200 oh man that's heavy avalanche that's 555 00:26:24,270 --> 00:26:21,850 heavy man that's heavy I have no idea 556 00:26:28,830 --> 00:26:24,280 where I mean that just that explodes the 557 00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:28,840 mind okay let me spoil your mind for 558 00:26:34,269 --> 00:26:29,690 Earth Day 559 00:26:37,629 --> 00:26:34,279 I might put a song at the power on my 560 00:26:42,129 --> 00:26:37,639 Facebook page yep called voices of the 561 00:26:45,669 --> 00:26:42,139 children yet unborn two days I had 562 00:26:48,730 --> 00:26:45,679 almost 5,000 views and it was growing up 563 00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:48,740 these [\h__\h] took a door I have it on 564 00:26:55,539 --> 00:26:52,490 YouTube and I got 175 use now but it's 565 00:26:56,259 --> 00:26:55,549 nothing my facebook and people love this 566 00:26:58,450 --> 00:26:56,269 song 567 00:27:01,720 --> 00:26:58,460 it's about the children that he gets to 568 00:27:10,259 --> 00:27:01,730 come into this world and muscle people 569 00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:13,930 I could see that see this is Avalanche 570 00:27:22,360 --> 00:27:16,210 this is no joke 571 00:27:26,430 --> 00:27:22,370 censorship today is out of control of 572 00:27:32,590 --> 00:27:26,440 control and I can promise you that 573 00:27:35,499 --> 00:27:32,600 Facebook which I did see news I didn't I 574 00:27:40,230 --> 00:27:35,509 didn't talk well okay I saw a press 575 00:27:43,509 --> 00:27:40,240 release today about Facebook's 576 00:27:48,159 --> 00:27:43,519 censorship of abortion issues right now 577 00:27:50,649 --> 00:27:48,169 and it's all done some of it is done by 578 00:27:54,700 --> 00:27:50,659 people complaining right they'll report 579 00:27:56,529 --> 00:27:54,710 the video most of it is done by a I so 580 00:27:58,360 --> 00:27:56,539 you know what I mean they're doing some 581 00:28:02,259 --> 00:27:58,370 search algorithm and you know Facebook 582 00:28:04,869 --> 00:28:02,269 is so big and they see the title of your 583 00:28:08,830 --> 00:28:04,879 song you know through automation and 584 00:28:11,889 --> 00:28:08,840 they automatically think something you 585 00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:11,899 know and if they heard the song or or 586 00:28:16,269 --> 00:28:13,970 understood what it was about you know a 587 00:28:18,759 --> 00:28:16,279 human being behind it it'd be a 588 00:28:21,009 --> 00:28:18,769 different story but the censorship is so 589 00:28:24,549 --> 00:28:21,019 out of control right now with automation 590 00:28:26,710 --> 00:28:24,559 and AI that people are getting blocked 591 00:28:28,779 --> 00:28:26,720 and brought down and channels to 592 00:28:33,190 --> 00:28:28,789 monetize and channels vanish and 593 00:28:36,519 --> 00:28:33,200 accounts shut down because of censorship 594 00:28:40,299 --> 00:28:36,529 and that's we see this is the thing Bob 595 00:28:43,390 --> 00:28:40,309 you're an artist you're a musician we 596 00:28:48,299 --> 00:28:43,400 fought this country fought 597 00:28:51,790 --> 00:28:48,309 for the rights to to music to the arts 598 00:28:54,220 --> 00:28:51,800 to writing two books to authors to 599 00:28:57,190 --> 00:28:54,230 publishing to journalism all of those 600 00:29:00,090 --> 00:28:57,200 freedoms of the media and communication 601 00:29:03,549 --> 00:29:00,100 we fought for that and all of a sudden 602 00:29:06,670 --> 00:29:03,559 where we're fighting this this war this 603 00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:06,680 battle of censorship I would have never 604 00:29:12,820 --> 00:29:10,250 thought of my wildest days right that we 605 00:29:13,420 --> 00:29:12,830 it would come to this but yeah we're 606 00:29:16,870 --> 00:29:13,430 right here 607 00:29:19,150 --> 00:29:16,880 and not I feel for you my friend it's 608 00:29:21,580 --> 00:29:19,160 not right yeah I'm a general in the rock 609 00:29:23,980 --> 00:29:21,590 and roll army man and I will never never 610 00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:23,990 give up and this was in Burma you can 611 00:29:29,049 --> 00:29:25,850 find this song on YouTube I'd put on 612 00:29:31,030 --> 00:29:29,059 YouTube well it's on YouTube well put it 613 00:29:33,820 --> 00:29:31,040 up there and put it up there and Twitter 614 00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:33,830 so I can retweet it I put it on Facebook 615 00:29:39,340 --> 00:29:36,890 I don't know how to do that Jim how do I 616 00:29:41,770 --> 00:29:39,350 put it on Twitter I don't have time to 617 00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:41,780 do that now but oh I don't know I you 618 00:29:48,190 --> 00:29:44,450 know that would I listen just put the 619 00:29:50,290 --> 00:29:48,200 link up to your YouTube channel and and 620 00:29:52,419 --> 00:29:50,300 post it in Twitter that's all you got to 621 00:29:56,140 --> 00:29:52,429 do just put the link up and I'll retweet 622 00:30:00,910 --> 00:29:56,150 it for you okay all right hey Bob enjoy 623 00:30:04,299 --> 00:30:00,920 the rest of your night my friend and you 624 00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:04,309 too you too a Blanche Bob right there 625 00:30:09,070 --> 00:30:07,250 doesn't get any cooler than that let's 626 00:30:10,900 --> 00:30:09,080 stay on the phones 627 00:30:13,419 --> 00:30:10,910 let's just yeah hi you're like my fade 628 00:30:17,020 --> 00:30:13,429 to black who's calling this is Nathan 629 00:30:20,169 --> 00:30:17,030 Ohio hey Nathan how you doing man I'm 630 00:30:22,540 --> 00:30:20,179 doing pretty good kind of I called 631 00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:22,550 because I had a very strange experience 632 00:30:28,299 --> 00:30:25,330 this past weekend while I was at the 633 00:30:34,540 --> 00:30:28,309 Sonic temple music and arts festival 634 00:30:37,180 --> 00:30:34,550 uh-huh what happened well I was at the 635 00:30:40,090 --> 00:30:37,190 Friday show I've got all three nights 636 00:30:42,940 --> 00:30:40,100 but the Friday show I was during system 637 00:30:44,940 --> 00:30:42,950 with him down set and I was watching the 638 00:30:47,530 --> 00:30:44,950 sky I kind of looked up into the sky 639 00:30:51,340 --> 00:30:47,540 because there'd been a lot of air travel 640 00:30:53,770 --> 00:30:51,350 over the show the whole day and I was 641 00:30:56,390 --> 00:30:53,780 just seeing if there was like planes and 642 00:30:58,790 --> 00:30:56,400 advertising and 643 00:31:00,740 --> 00:30:58,800 all sorts of things so I was just 644 00:31:04,310 --> 00:31:00,750 looking up into the sky I kind of in the 645 00:31:07,190 --> 00:31:04,320 middle of the set during the show and I 646 00:31:12,260 --> 00:31:07,200 saw my I caught something in the sky 647 00:31:17,060 --> 00:31:12,270 and I was pretty sure it was a drone but 648 00:31:19,010 --> 00:31:17,070 it was it blinking red back and forth 649 00:31:20,900 --> 00:31:19,020 between the two sides of it and I could 650 00:31:23,060 --> 00:31:20,910 tell that it was a dark object in the 651 00:31:28,780 --> 00:31:23,070 center but it was moving very strangely 652 00:31:33,620 --> 00:31:28,790 and then about thirty seconds later I 653 00:31:38,690 --> 00:31:33,630 started to feel like my brain was like 654 00:31:41,180 --> 00:31:38,700 buzzing like and I kind of went numb and 655 00:31:42,860 --> 00:31:41,190 started I almost tapped my friend on the 656 00:31:45,190 --> 00:31:42,870 shoulder I was going to tell him that I 657 00:31:49,910 --> 00:31:45,200 was needed to get out of the crowd and 658 00:31:52,150 --> 00:31:49,920 then I blacked out and he was like 659 00:31:55,850 --> 00:31:52,160 stabbing me in the face when I woke up 660 00:31:58,070 --> 00:31:55,860 Wow and it was like I was out for like 661 00:32:00,110 --> 00:31:58,080 30 seconds or something like that are 662 00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:00,120 you okay do you think they were related 663 00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:02,730 or maybe it was just you know maybe it 664 00:32:10,210 --> 00:32:07,650 was the the heavy bass jams well I've 665 00:32:13,970 --> 00:32:10,220 been to a lot of shows and I've been 666 00:32:15,890 --> 00:32:13,980 I've also been contact experience there 667 00:32:21,050 --> 00:32:15,900 I call your show a lot and talk about 668 00:32:24,710 --> 00:32:21,060 that but I it's easy for me sometimes to 669 00:32:26,750 --> 00:32:24,720 associate the two I was just I mean I I 670 00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:26,760 was worried about it medically at first 671 00:32:33,140 --> 00:32:29,850 but I was fine after that day and I as 672 00:32:35,660 --> 00:32:33,150 soon as I woke up I was fine why would I 673 00:32:39,010 --> 00:32:35,670 do think that the two were related yeah 674 00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:39,020 well I'm glad that you are fine and 675 00:32:44,540 --> 00:32:41,970 maybe later maybe you got a download 676 00:32:46,910 --> 00:32:44,550 right maybe maybe something you know 677 00:32:49,430 --> 00:32:46,920 maybe something else is involved here 678 00:32:51,530 --> 00:32:49,440 and if you find out I know that you know 679 00:32:54,170 --> 00:32:51,540 let me know but I'm glad that you're 680 00:32:57,320 --> 00:32:54,180 alright man and I hope that the rest of 681 00:32:58,790 --> 00:32:57,330 the festival was cool it was it was a 682 00:33:01,730 --> 00:32:58,800 great experience 683 00:33:03,860 --> 00:33:01,740 thank you around yeah yeah Thank You 684 00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:03,870 Nathan behaving be well my friend have a 685 00:33:09,620 --> 00:33:07,290 great weekend you do Thank You Nathan 686 00:33:16,190 --> 00:33:09,630 that's uh that's 687 00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:16,200 yeah could that be related it's uh it's 688 00:33:19,850 --> 00:33:18,810 certainly a possibility isn't it it is a 689 00:33:25,190 --> 00:33:19,860 possibility 690 00:33:28,490 --> 00:33:25,200 could it be related mmm very interesting 691 00:33:30,950 --> 00:33:28,500 okay I am lining up stuff 692 00:33:33,260 --> 00:33:30,960 I'm sorry everybody's just been calling 693 00:33:37,190 --> 00:33:33,270 and I haven't been picking up calls so 694 00:33:37,430 --> 00:33:37,200 I'm doing it now and let's bow okay all 695 00:33:39,860 --> 00:33:37,440 right 696 00:33:40,580 --> 00:33:39,870 let's just keep this going in two 697 00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:40,590 seconds 698 00:33:45,590 --> 00:33:43,050 we'll be going right back to the phones 699 00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:45,600 and I'm gonna do it here let's go here 700 00:33:50,810 --> 00:33:47,130 for high your life I'm fade to black 701 00:33:52,790 --> 00:33:50,820 who's calling hey Jimmy it's Paul from 702 00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:52,800 Virginia hey Paul from Virginia how are 703 00:34:00,050 --> 00:33:56,850 you I'm good man uh glad to talk to you 704 00:34:02,740 --> 00:34:00,060 what's on your mind tonight Paul well I 705 00:34:08,510 --> 00:34:02,750 want to start out talking about 3rd mink 706 00:34:12,830 --> 00:34:08,520 um Fairbanks and Burbank Oh Burbank 707 00:34:15,139 --> 00:34:12,840 yeah like Burbank California yeah it's 708 00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:15,149 my favorite town I've ever lived in okay 709 00:34:20,810 --> 00:34:17,010 all right so what's on your mind about 710 00:34:22,909 --> 00:34:20,820 Burbank you remember that little used 711 00:34:26,450 --> 00:34:22,919 bookstore that was downtown there had a 712 00:34:29,570 --> 00:34:26,460 little awning above it in Burbank are 713 00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:32,950 there was the one in North Hollywood on 714 00:34:37,310 --> 00:34:34,490 [Music] 715 00:34:40,970 --> 00:34:37,320 man what was that Laurel Canyon and 716 00:34:44,110 --> 00:34:40,980 Magnolia there was one there too I'm 717 00:34:50,690 --> 00:34:44,120 talking about the one it was in Burbank 718 00:34:54,260 --> 00:34:50,700 hold on now on Cahuenga and Burbank next 719 00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:54,270 to oh man and next to Circus liquor 720 00:34:58,790 --> 00:34:55,850 you're talking about that one 721 00:35:01,490 --> 00:34:58,800 no I'm talking about one in Burbank 722 00:35:05,060 --> 00:35:01,500 Burbank this is Burbank I'm talking 723 00:35:06,710 --> 00:35:05,070 about Cahuenga and Burbank Boulevard no 724 00:35:09,380 --> 00:35:06,720 I wasn't going to okay 725 00:35:12,230 --> 00:35:09,390 all right now it was a little south of a 726 00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:12,240 little south and east of Burbank High 727 00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:14,850 School a little bit south and east of 728 00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:17,210 Burbank High School in downtown Burbank 729 00:35:23,490 --> 00:35:22,170 South and East so that would be like at 730 00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:23,500 Orange Grove 731 00:35:30,540 --> 00:35:28,210 and second Avenue yeah yeah somewhere 732 00:35:33,870 --> 00:35:30,550 like that anyway all right now here's a 733 00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:33,880 bummer all right so what about it I just 734 00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:35,770 used to love walking in there and 735 00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:40,570 smelling the book smell and I used to 736 00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:43,570 get every book I could find from think 737 00:35:47,940 --> 00:35:46,210 Herbert now I was talking to the owner 738 00:35:51,410 --> 00:35:47,950 there in one day and he said Frank used 739 00:35:53,730 --> 00:35:51,420 to come in in there and peruse the store 740 00:35:57,840 --> 00:35:53,740 when was the last time you were in that 741 00:35:59,430 --> 00:35:57,850 area I was uh five and a half years ago 742 00:36:01,950 --> 00:35:59,440 I think just before you started your 743 00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:01,960 show okay cuz you know now that that's 744 00:36:08,430 --> 00:36:04,930 all that's all condos and apartments now 745 00:36:11,340 --> 00:36:08,440 I mean that that whole area around 746 00:36:12,660 --> 00:36:11,350 Burbank High School I mean fir'd you 747 00:36:16,380 --> 00:36:12,670 know a couple of miles in each direction 748 00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:16,390 is all built and I think that that's all 749 00:36:23,250 --> 00:36:18,370 brand-new development I mean it's nice 750 00:36:25,590 --> 00:36:23,260 but the old Burbank experience that that 751 00:36:29,330 --> 00:36:25,600 we all know and love that that's that's 752 00:36:32,850 --> 00:36:29,340 all gone you have to yeah I mean to to 753 00:36:36,030 --> 00:36:32,860 experience old Burbank like it used to 754 00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:36,040 be you've got to go up Magnolia or 755 00:36:43,530 --> 00:36:40,930 Burbank Boulevard and get on to the 756 00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:43,540 other side of the five because that's 757 00:36:50,340 --> 00:36:45,130 where it's still the old Burbank 758 00:36:52,110 --> 00:36:50,350 Burbank had a law which is technically 759 00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:52,120 still on the books but they had a law 760 00:36:58,710 --> 00:36:54,610 that you could not build anything in 761 00:37:01,580 --> 00:36:58,720 Burbank over two stories tall okay that 762 00:37:06,210 --> 00:37:01,590 was the law there were a couple of 763 00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:06,220 exceptions made in those the holiday in 764 00:37:11,100 --> 00:37:08,290 a couple of hotels there in Burbank 765 00:37:13,230 --> 00:37:11,110 other than that everything was two 766 00:37:14,940 --> 00:37:13,240 stories tall they didn't want the 767 00:37:18,030 --> 00:37:14,950 cityscape ruined 768 00:37:19,590 --> 00:37:18,040 well downtown Burbank is not the case 769 00:37:22,350 --> 00:37:19,600 anymore everything is ten storeys and 770 00:37:24,270 --> 00:37:22,360 above but when the Burbank at the time 771 00:37:27,390 --> 00:37:24,280 when I was there was like the West most 772 00:37:29,190 --> 00:37:27,400 well planned out town I saw in the whole 773 00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:29,200 yeah it was great it was great because 774 00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:31,210 everything is one-story two storeys tall 775 00:37:36,770 --> 00:37:34,450 and it was old-school 50s and it was 776 00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:36,780 just happening and kitsch 777 00:37:40,370 --> 00:37:38,850 but Burbank isn't that way anymore it is 778 00:37:43,670 --> 00:37:40,380 if you get to the other side of the five 779 00:37:46,670 --> 00:37:43,680 and had hey Paul thank you for taking me 780 00:37:48,140 --> 00:37:46,680 down memory lane man well yeah he um but 781 00:37:50,630 --> 00:37:48,150 there was an experience I had in Burbank 782 00:37:52,660 --> 00:37:50,640 I'd like to talk about okay what 783 00:37:55,130 --> 00:37:52,670 happened okay 784 00:37:57,200 --> 00:37:55,140 the first time it happened now sleeping 785 00:38:01,010 --> 00:37:57,210 just sleeping and all sudden I wake up 786 00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:01,020 and I look right in front of me and 787 00:38:09,100 --> 00:38:05,970 there was like a loop like a tornado in 788 00:38:11,510 --> 00:38:09,110 front of me that was like me had a light 789 00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:11,520 it was probably only like ten inches 790 00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:13,530 tall and it's right in front of my face 791 00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:18,210 and I like I was freaked out I jumped up 792 00:38:23,060 --> 00:38:21,450 I'm you know I jump up and moving away 793 00:38:25,460 --> 00:38:23,070 from me I'm like what the hell is that 794 00:38:27,050 --> 00:38:25,470 and I look at my wife and she's freaked 795 00:38:29,090 --> 00:38:27,060 out too wondering would am i what's 796 00:38:31,970 --> 00:38:29,100 wrong and she didn't see it and 797 00:38:34,180 --> 00:38:31,980 disappeared and then uh you know in a 798 00:38:38,300 --> 00:38:34,190 month time it happened two more times 799 00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:38,310 and then the left and then you know a 800 00:38:45,290 --> 00:38:43,050 big Bailey that uh that David Wilcock 801 00:38:48,740 --> 00:38:45,300 did a interview with about the plan like 802 00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:48,750 in 2010 or so no I don't remember that 803 00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:51,090 but he's a friend of mine so whenever 804 00:38:57,140 --> 00:38:53,010 stuff like that happens I'd call him 805 00:39:02,710 --> 00:38:57,150 like about the period man that I saw but 806 00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:02,720 uh anyway the last time it happened I 807 00:39:09,550 --> 00:39:06,930 wake up and there were three green 808 00:39:14,660 --> 00:39:09,560 tourmate tornadoes in front of me 809 00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:14,670 spinning kind of kind of like a color of 810 00:39:20,950 --> 00:39:18,450 the rainbow green and there was three of 811 00:39:23,390 --> 00:39:20,960 them like a triangle rain front of me 812 00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:23,400 spinning spinning spinning wow I've 813 00:39:28,820 --> 00:39:27,210 never heard that before I'm gonna shout 814 00:39:30,940 --> 00:39:28,830 out to the audience right now has 815 00:39:34,610 --> 00:39:30,950 anybody ever had that kind of experience 816 00:39:36,110 --> 00:39:34,620 I want to talk about because I realized 817 00:39:37,910 --> 00:39:36,120 well that's probably something I've 818 00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:37,920 never heard anybody talk about so uh 819 00:39:41,930 --> 00:39:40,770 I'll mention that yeah let's let's see 820 00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:41,940 what happens that's very interesting 821 00:39:47,570 --> 00:39:46,050 Paul hey man have a great weekend thank 822 00:39:49,940 --> 00:39:47,580 you me and hey I hope you're okay buddy 823 00:39:50,210 --> 00:39:49,950 I'm good man I was worried when I was 824 00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:50,220 one 825 00:39:54,980 --> 00:39:53,130 what happened to the show and we'll open 826 00:39:56,930 --> 00:39:54,990 your okay it's all good man it's 827 00:39:59,720 --> 00:39:56,940 seriously I feel great and thank you 828 00:40:04,340 --> 00:39:59,730 thank you so much for you man shoutout 829 00:40:07,460 --> 00:40:04,350 to the Spreaker room they're the best in 830 00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:07,470 there have a good weekend Paul thanks 831 00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:11,850 man thank you and tornadoes little mini 832 00:40:19,130 --> 00:40:16,050 tornadoes while you're sleeping has 833 00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:19,140 anybody ever experienced that that is 834 00:40:25,550 --> 00:40:23,490 very very interesting and with that 835 00:40:28,220 --> 00:40:25,560 let's see let's look at the clock yeah I 836 00:40:33,110 --> 00:40:28,230 can do a couple more really quick and 837 00:40:35,090 --> 00:40:33,120 let's see let's go here first man hey 838 00:40:36,770 --> 00:40:35,100 the phones are acting funky no they're 839 00:40:39,020 --> 00:40:36,780 not they're good hi you're live on fade 840 00:40:41,240 --> 00:40:39,030 to black who's calling hey right on 841 00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:41,250 there Jimmy it's brother Bob watches 842 00:40:44,510 --> 00:40:42,810 from the great white north how are you 843 00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:44,520 hey Bob how are you man everything good 844 00:40:52,630 --> 00:40:48,690 Oh everything's just peachy up here but 845 00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:52,640 I'm kind of tripping how north are you I 846 00:40:58,370 --> 00:40:55,770 am Edmonton Alberta well yeah that's 847 00:41:00,290 --> 00:40:58,380 north that's north yeah that's where you 848 00:41:02,870 --> 00:41:00,300 had the good steak yep that's north 849 00:41:06,500 --> 00:41:02,880 that's north so what's going on up there 850 00:41:09,500 --> 00:41:06,510 well it's not snowing now it is in 851 00:41:10,790 --> 00:41:09,510 Denver though apparently is it yeah I 852 00:41:13,370 --> 00:41:10,800 was stolen 853 00:41:17,030 --> 00:41:13,380 about a week ago but not not so much now 854 00:41:19,790 --> 00:41:17,040 so what's going on man well did you it 855 00:41:22,730 --> 00:41:19,800 is the guy who is doing the does the 856 00:41:24,850 --> 00:41:22,740 night-vision goggles did you interview 857 00:41:27,980 --> 00:41:24,860 him about the same time last year 858 00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:27,990 maybe probably because I swear to God I 859 00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:30,450 heard that interview before and I was 860 00:41:34,610 --> 00:41:31,890 listening to coast to coast the other 861 00:41:37,070 --> 00:41:34,620 day and it's like it's the same 862 00:41:39,110 --> 00:41:37,080 interview and the same people and I 863 00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:39,120 remember listening to some guy called 864 00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:42,090 your show a while ago saying the same 865 00:41:47,930 --> 00:41:43,650 thing remember he's called up and said 866 00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:47,940 didn't you just do this show yeah that 867 00:41:54,980 --> 00:41:50,490 that was uh that was last month I 868 00:42:01,430 --> 00:41:54,990 remember that too as well it was just so 869 00:42:02,180 --> 00:42:01,440 trippy man because it was like yeah I 870 00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:02,190 mean 871 00:42:09,590 --> 00:42:07,170 sure we had Alec on last I know I you 872 00:42:12,980 --> 00:42:09,600 know what I don't know I've had him on 873 00:42:14,750 --> 00:42:12,990 the show before but I don't know if we 874 00:42:17,330 --> 00:42:14,760 did it last year maybe six months ago 875 00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:17,340 all your goggles like your color goggles 876 00:42:20,030 --> 00:42:18,930 how old are those they like brand-new 877 00:42:27,350 --> 00:42:20,040 brand-new 878 00:42:30,770 --> 00:42:27,360 him no way like this month yes like this 879 00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:30,780 month get oh no no absolutely not 880 00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:34,530 because what do you mean absolutely not 881 00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:38,450 we just literally not because I swear it 882 00:42:44,330 --> 00:42:41,010 Barry is my witness there but by the 883 00:42:45,500 --> 00:42:44,340 grace of Barry go I right absolutely 884 00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:45,510 last year 885 00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:49,290 oh my yeah man you're tripping hey you 886 00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:51,290 know what though Bob tripping is good 887 00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:54,450 tripping is fun see the thing is and 888 00:42:57,500 --> 00:42:55,650 there's people out there that'll listen 889 00:43:01,940 --> 00:42:57,510 going institute is to be talking about 890 00:43:06,010 --> 00:43:01,950 you know acid what's he do this is this 891 00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:06,020 is what is so amazing I love deja Vu's 892 00:43:11,810 --> 00:43:09,570 when they happen and and I know what 893 00:43:13,100 --> 00:43:11,820 you're thinking and I get that I don't 894 00:43:16,700 --> 00:43:13,110 know if you think of deja vu but the 895 00:43:18,770 --> 00:43:16,710 point is you're thinking like it is and 896 00:43:21,020 --> 00:43:18,780 that means you're on the right path yeah 897 00:43:23,090 --> 00:43:21,030 yeah yeah there you got every time it's 898 00:43:26,090 --> 00:43:23,100 all I've ever been taught I love it when 899 00:43:30,190 --> 00:43:26,100 it happens Bob but I can assure you that 900 00:43:34,070 --> 00:43:30,200 we introduced the goggles to the world 901 00:43:38,870 --> 00:43:34,080 about I have to ask Rita two months ago 902 00:43:42,890 --> 00:43:38,880 I think two months ago yeah yeah because 903 00:43:45,970 --> 00:43:42,900 a friend of mine has really really are 904 00:43:48,500 --> 00:43:45,980 pierette retinas retinitis pigmentosa 905 00:43:50,660 --> 00:43:48,510 right and he can't see at night and I 906 00:43:52,340 --> 00:43:50,670 was thinking you know Jimmy's got these 907 00:43:56,300 --> 00:43:52,350 really good goggles and we went camping 908 00:43:58,790 --> 00:43:56,310 last year ah yeah you've got to get 909 00:44:01,220 --> 00:43:58,800 something you got a you got a point your 910 00:44:03,710 --> 00:44:01,230 friend over to and think about this if 911 00:44:06,260 --> 00:44:03,720 he can't see at night and he gets these 912 00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:06,270 night-vision goggles that are cobalt 913 00:44:13,580 --> 00:44:09,650 blue not green not black and white but 914 00:44:15,710 --> 00:44:13,590 our blue sky that you're looking at with 915 00:44:17,990 --> 00:44:15,720 the Stars and the 916 00:44:19,609 --> 00:44:18,000 quality of the optics and what you're 917 00:44:22,910 --> 00:44:19,619 dealing with here there is nothing 918 00:44:26,089 --> 00:44:22,920 better on the planet you would have the 919 00:44:26,720 --> 00:44:26,099 most amazing but but that's not why I 920 00:44:29,870 --> 00:44:26,730 called 921 00:44:33,530 --> 00:44:29,880 okay why'd you call we're about the same 922 00:44:36,170 --> 00:44:33,540 age we are your 29-yard I thought you 923 00:44:40,970 --> 00:44:36,180 were older actually I'm on the what is 924 00:44:42,370 --> 00:44:40,980 it force 23rd anniversary of my 29th 925 00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:42,380 birth 926 00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:48,810 something like that all right so go 927 00:44:57,380 --> 00:44:51,210 ahead we got two minutes war the world 928 00:45:00,500 --> 00:44:57,390 yes Jeff Wayne 1978 Phil Lynott Justin 929 00:45:05,450 --> 00:45:00,510 Hayward David Essex you ever listen to 930 00:45:10,370 --> 00:45:05,460 that man yeah oh man you're taking me 931 00:45:13,220 --> 00:45:10,380 back oh I knew you did man I'll tell you 932 00:45:17,839 --> 00:45:13,230 that our HD well that's original 933 00:45:20,089 --> 00:45:17,849 disclosure man it's a documentary it's a 934 00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:20,099 diary it's a documentary man if you 935 00:45:24,170 --> 00:45:22,530 think of short if you think about it and 936 00:45:26,900 --> 00:45:24,180 then Jeff Wayne took that thing and he 937 00:45:29,780 --> 00:45:26,910 put it he put it on the stage yeah yeah 938 00:45:30,470 --> 00:45:29,790 yeah yeah and who would man let me tell 939 00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:30,480 you something 940 00:45:36,620 --> 00:45:34,290 and I'm not was like the preacher man 941 00:45:39,230 --> 00:45:36,630 yeah yeah building Hut man I miss that 942 00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:39,240 guy okay listen I mean I'm being serious 943 00:45:47,870 --> 00:45:43,490 I'm nobody had the vision of the future 944 00:45:52,550 --> 00:45:47,880 like David I see David Essex that guy 945 00:45:58,160 --> 00:45:52,560 would he was doing in 1970 could have 946 00:46:01,160 --> 00:45:58,170 been hit songs today today think about 947 00:46:04,490 --> 00:46:01,170 that he when everybody else is doing 948 00:46:07,910 --> 00:46:04,500 that that that you don't think that Dave 949 00:46:14,240 --> 00:46:07,920 hello what are you being serious 950 00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:14,250 ah we lost him we lost him oh that is 951 00:46:21,650 --> 00:46:17,490 just a drag and I have got two minutes 952 00:46:22,460 --> 00:46:21,660 okay I'm gonna go I'm going to go and oh 953 00:46:26,750 --> 00:46:22,470 okay 954 00:46:28,490 --> 00:46:26,760 calls are dropping I am going to let's 955 00:46:29,180 --> 00:46:28,500 pick up the most recent one see they 956 00:46:31,789 --> 00:46:29,190 time 957 00:46:34,069 --> 00:46:31,799 after 30 minutes everybody just so you 958 00:46:35,750 --> 00:46:34,079 know that's partly my fault 959 00:46:38,299 --> 00:46:35,760 hi you're live on fade to black who's 960 00:46:40,039 --> 00:46:38,309 calling hey what's happening to me it's 961 00:46:45,980 --> 00:46:40,049 Ryan from Pittsburgh 962 00:46:49,220 --> 00:46:45,990 yeah better good brother I'm uh had a 963 00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:49,230 UFO story wanted to share with you okay 964 00:46:55,849 --> 00:46:52,410 what happened all right so this happened 965 00:46:59,059 --> 00:46:55,859 about three years ago and as I am now 966 00:47:04,130 --> 00:46:59,069 it's pretty much into this field pretty 967 00:47:06,349 --> 00:47:04,140 deep so I had a high powered flashlight 968 00:47:07,099 --> 00:47:06,359 I was messing around for a couple nights 969 00:47:10,010 --> 00:47:07,109 in a row 970 00:47:11,870 --> 00:47:10,020 pointing at the sky you know I don't 971 00:47:15,140 --> 00:47:11,880 know why you know just trying to pick up 972 00:47:18,079 --> 00:47:15,150 something you know so I also had a night 973 00:47:21,770 --> 00:47:18,089 vision monocular and I would use them 974 00:47:24,319 --> 00:47:21,780 both and so the second night I saw a 975 00:47:29,270 --> 00:47:24,329 couple lights come by and then the third 976 00:47:31,490 --> 00:47:29,280 night I saw one come in and stopped when 977 00:47:35,569 --> 00:47:31,500 I looked at it with a monocular it 978 00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:35,579 disappeared whoa so yeah it scared me 979 00:47:42,559 --> 00:47:39,690 how's that go so I went inside but so 980 00:47:46,700 --> 00:47:42,569 the next thing I remember after laying 981 00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:46,710 on a couch I just remember waking up 982 00:47:53,630 --> 00:47:50,490 instantly not not feeling sleepy or 983 00:47:55,460 --> 00:47:53,640 anything all of a sudden I look at my 984 00:47:57,500 --> 00:47:55,470 door and I mean my basement the doors 985 00:47:58,910 --> 00:47:57,510 have blinds inside of them so you could 986 00:48:02,180 --> 00:47:58,920 you know hit that lever and the blind to 987 00:48:05,450 --> 00:48:02,190 go up inside the window right so outside 988 00:48:07,849 --> 00:48:05,460 is an orange light and it's sitting in 989 00:48:12,230 --> 00:48:07,859 the upper corner and it's not blinking 990 00:48:16,069 --> 00:48:12,240 it's going in and out in and out and 991 00:48:19,250 --> 00:48:16,079 it's not shining a light and it's it's 992 00:48:20,990 --> 00:48:19,260 it was contained within itself you know 993 00:48:23,599 --> 00:48:21,000 what I mean that like you hear another 994 00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:23,609 UFO stories like you know orbs the 995 00:48:29,900 --> 00:48:25,410 lights weren't shining it was like a 996 00:48:33,829 --> 00:48:29,910 ball of light within it so the second 997 00:48:36,019 --> 00:48:33,839 thing I noticed was my my feet were 998 00:48:39,740 --> 00:48:36,029 totally pointed straight up in my hands 999 00:48:42,140 --> 00:48:39,750 or in my hoodie and people who know me 1000 00:48:42,890 --> 00:48:42,150 they know I got real short stubby legs 1001 00:48:44,450 --> 00:48:42,900 so 1002 00:48:47,090 --> 00:48:44,460 it's kind of hard for me to put my legs 1003 00:48:50,300 --> 00:48:47,100 together and keep them straight up right 1004 00:48:52,310 --> 00:48:50,310 and so I thought at that point I think I 1005 00:48:54,950 --> 00:48:52,320 got to see what this is so I made the 1006 00:48:59,330 --> 00:48:54,960 decision to get up and run to the door 1007 00:49:01,730 --> 00:48:59,340 and rate as I saw that the light dimmed 1008 00:49:05,090 --> 00:49:01,740 out but I got to the door pulled it open 1009 00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:05,100 looked up I saw nothing but the branch 1010 00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:08,010 was going up and down and there was no 1011 00:49:15,710 --> 00:49:12,450 wind that night and so for the next year 1012 00:49:17,270 --> 00:49:15,720 I tried to debunk this I thought it was 1013 00:49:20,180 --> 00:49:17,280 a street light or maybe it was someone's 1014 00:49:21,650 --> 00:49:20,190 car light but I lived rape there's no 1015 00:49:22,820 --> 00:49:21,660 light there you could get no lights 1016 00:49:24,260 --> 00:49:22,830 behind there they never happened 1017 00:49:26,510 --> 00:49:24,270 together right right 1018 00:49:31,510 --> 00:49:26,520 it didn't happen from right I get it I 1019 00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:31,520 get it so has it happened since no but 1020 00:49:37,550 --> 00:49:35,370 we have recently seen I mean me and my 1021 00:49:40,730 --> 00:49:37,560 son saw two orbs the one and this is in 1022 00:49:42,650 --> 00:49:40,740 a daytime two orbs side-by-side they 1023 00:49:44,630 --> 00:49:42,660 both turned with each other and rate as 1024 00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:44,640 I went to go pull my phone out they 1025 00:49:54,440 --> 00:49:51,810 disappeared the only other thing I can 1026 00:49:56,470 --> 00:49:54,450 connect with this it would be I was 1027 00:50:00,080 --> 00:49:56,480 driving to one day for deliveries for 1028 00:50:02,030 --> 00:50:00,090 FedEx Express and I all the sudden image 1029 00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:02,040 just popped in my head of an orange 1030 00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:05,490 light underneath a craft but that's the 1031 00:50:09,590 --> 00:50:07,650 only thing I can connect with that but I 1032 00:50:13,100 --> 00:50:09,600 mean I don't know what else to say I'm 1033 00:50:14,900 --> 00:50:13,110 guessing it was an orb or you were a UFO 1034 00:50:18,170 --> 00:50:14,910 you know I mean I just it's something 1035 00:50:22,190 --> 00:50:18,180 that's never happened since and I could 1036 00:50:25,160 --> 00:50:22,200 never duplicate what it was well you 1037 00:50:27,710 --> 00:50:25,170 know Ryan I'm gonna a quick comment and 1038 00:50:31,940 --> 00:50:27,720 then I've got a break for commercial 1039 00:50:36,380 --> 00:50:31,950 here but as we are moving into like this 1040 00:50:39,530 --> 00:50:36,390 new phase of what this may be the 1041 00:50:41,750 --> 00:50:39,540 phenomenon more and more myself included 1042 00:50:46,310 --> 00:50:41,760 more and more of us are seeing things 1043 00:50:48,890 --> 00:50:46,320 that appear to be energy balls of light 1044 00:50:51,380 --> 00:50:48,900 that are entering from the atmosphere or 1045 00:50:54,860 --> 00:50:51,390 maybe you know from from space of course 1046 00:50:56,470 --> 00:50:54,870 but maybe something interdimensional you 1047 00:51:01,230 --> 00:50:56,480 know something from a parallel 1048 00:51:04,330 --> 00:51:01,240 all world that is next to us but it is 1049 00:51:07,270 --> 00:51:04,340 something that everybody is seeing and I 1050 00:51:09,370 --> 00:51:07,280 am seeing it constantly so are they 1051 00:51:12,280 --> 00:51:09,380 connected I you know it could be just 1052 00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:12,290 the latest visitations of our et 1053 00:51:17,109 --> 00:51:14,810 brothers another civilization out there 1054 00:51:19,300 --> 00:51:17,119 and that's the car that they drive you 1055 00:51:22,120 --> 00:51:19,310 know but exactly hey Ryan 1056 00:51:23,950 --> 00:51:22,130 enjoy your weekend you see the brother 1057 00:51:26,320 --> 00:51:23,960 have a go on you too man thank you so 1058 00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:26,330 much this is fade to black Thank You 1059 00:51:30,490 --> 00:51:26,810 Ryan 1060 00:51:32,680 --> 00:51:30,500 from Pittsburgh I am your host Jimmy 1061 00:51:37,330 --> 00:51:32,690 Church it's Thursday night it is Fator 1062 00:51:41,170 --> 00:51:37,340 night more of your phone calls are next 1063 00:51:43,900 --> 00:51:41,180 you stay right there you have just 1064 00:51:47,560 --> 00:51:43,910 listened to a full hour free preview 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